Can a Person Self-Identify as a Homosexual and Continue a Gay Lifestyle and be a Christian?

Hello Beloved,

I saw this blog post and I thought this is a fantastic and Biblically solid answer to those under the impression that one can be gay and a Christian then self-label this way.

See the blog post below:

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A visitor claimed that someone could still self-identify and continue a gay lifestyle and be a Christian.

Response:
If a person goes to Christ to save them from hell, but does not want Him to save them from sin, then it is a false understanding of the gospel. Christ saves us from sins’ guilt AND tyranny over us.

Those who self-identify as homosexual are sinners just like me. I am clearly not any better and obviously am not redeemed because I am more righteous. But when God does a work of grace in a person, he has a new identity in Christ. Our sin is not our identity. We don’t say we are adulterous Christians, thieving Christians or covetous Christians any more than we say we are gay Christians. Like most theologically sound churches, my own church has many people who used to identify as gay. No longer (1 Cor 6:10-11). Now we all worship the same God in church each week together, regardless of our former sin. Of course, all Christians will struggle with sin all their life, but it is not their identity, nor do they continue in such sin without repentance, being indifferent to it. That is false teaching. Everyone is called to repent. Shall we withold the gospel from a particular group by pretending they are different than we are? Or exempt certain sins from repentance? We are all born with the inclination to one sin or another. There is no excuse for any Christian refusing them the gospel for some political or social pressure. Christ is the Lord who sets us free from our bondage.

Thu, 10/31/2019 – 15:03 — john_hendryx
Source: https://www.monergism.com/blog/can-person-self-identify-homosexual-and-continue-gay-lifestyle-and-be-christian
Blanket on a secluded beach! Asked on November 3, 2019 in Chit Chat, Jokes, and More .

Elevation, I would find it helpful if we had a definition of ‘gay lifestyle’.  I think there is a huge difference between identifying as gay and ‘living the gay lifestyle’ (depending on what that means.  If we conflate the two then we move away from what the Bible teaches.

on November 4, 2019.
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    I agree! I like the juxtaposition that we don’t say we’re [insert sinful action here] Christians. A Christian can struggle with same-sex attraction just as much as a Christian can struggle with a self-righteous attitude. Each of us have our earthly sin nature that we wrestle with, but it’s what we choose to do with that sin nature that matters. Do we keep it tucked away in a secret box in our hearts or crucify it on the cross of Christ?

    California King Answered on November 3, 2019.
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      Growing up GenX and as a conservative Evangelical Christian, I’d heard ‘homosexual’ in sermons and from people at school.  I’d also heard ‘gay’ and ‘lesbian’ at school.  I thought of homosexuals as people who performed homosexual acts.  But it seems like LGBT apologists and GenX think in terms of ‘orientation.’

      It turns out the term was coined in the 1800’s with the idea that it had to do with attraction, not necessarily actions.

      So the idea of someone being a ‘homosexual’ and a ‘Christian’ isn’t as incongruous as I once thought.

      The take-away from this, IMO, is for preachers and other Christians who will declare ‘Homosexuals are going to Hell.’  People who experience same-sex attraction may hear that and think there is no hope for themselves because they experience this kind of attraction.

      Same sex attraction is not a good thing.  If someone finds himself attracted to his uncles new young pretty wife, that’s not good, but he can just not act on it– not yielding his eyes or mind to lust included.  But attraction of males to females is normal.  Attraction to the same sex, to animals, etc. is another category.

      Be that as it may, struggling with attraction is not the same as acting on it.  One could experience same-sex-attraction without sinning and it is not a damning thing.  They say in the psyhcological literature, some men who experience this did not bond with their fathers and eroticized male attention.  Whatever the case, it’s not something to be celebrated, but rather resisted.

      We also have to be aware that pedophilia is attraction to prepubescent children.  It is not the same as acting on it.  This is a particularly dangerous and harmful desire if acted on.

      Should Christians with same-sex attraction identify as ‘homosexual Christians.’  I would say no.  Instead of comparing this to ‘fornicator Christians’ or ‘adulterer Christians’,  I think it is more intend to calling oneself an “inclined-to-fornicate Christian’, etc.  That’s not a good label.  Romans 6 says to reckon yourself as dead indeed to sin but alive unto God.  If you are dead to fornication, you aren’t going to call yourself that.  If you are dead to homosexual sin, you should not consider yourself as a homosexual Christian.  Calling oneself a ‘homosexual Christian’ also seems to align with the false LGBT worldview which treats an ‘orientation’ toward homosexuality or bisexuality as a normal thing just like normal sexual desires.  Accepting labels like ‘gay’ and ‘lesbian’ seems to implicitly be accepting that worldview.

      Hammock Answered on November 4, 2019.

      well said

      on March 16, 2020.
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        I really like this approach. It really is one of the biggest questions in front of the modern church these days.

        California King Answered on November 3, 2019.
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          I agree. It seems like a good approach.

          Under the stars Answered on November 3, 2019.
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            Re: Jpops comment

            Some of the issue isn’t that a certain sect “keep[s] it tucked away in a secret box”, they proudly wear the title as a badge, believing they are justified in their lifestyle. They believe they are not sinning in a homosexual lifestyle and still believe they are Christians. That’s the difference between how the OP approaches the subject (homesexual=sin) versus how some make the claim that the OP was responding to (homosexual=not sin).

            Under the stars Answered on November 3, 2019.
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              Thanks for sharing that response. Though far from acceptable in popular culture (and increasingly so in many Christian circles), it speaks frankly and clearly about this issue. Sad to say many Christians – even famous ones – are no longer in agreement with what you posted. How can we help each other to be faithful to God’s Word and His design for marriage and sexuality?

              Under the stars Answered on November 3, 2019.
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                Others have offered a lot more wisdom than I can about this particular subject, so I won’t try to add anything. The only thing going through my head as I think about this question is that I think it must be incredibly painful to believe you are SSA and also want to follow Christ. I’m so very thankful to God that this particular burden is not mine to bear.

                Under the stars Answered on November 5, 2019.
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                  It is a bit Kanye though, isn’t it.

                  What does a same sex attracted Christian have to do to convince fellow believers (if they ever dared to admit that) that they are managing their SSA?  Marry someone of the opposite sex and have kids?

                  Queen bed Answered on November 4, 2019.

                  Why would they need to do things to prove to fellow believers that they are managing it?  That’s between them and God.  Do you have to do something to prove that you are not lusting?  That you are not dishonoring your parents?  That you are not being gluttonous?  We are here to encourage one another in righteousness, but not to police one another.

                  The problem is when someone engages in sinful behavior and wants the church to sanction it.

                  on November 22, 2019.
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                    I think most conservative Christians would agree with the blog post. However, it doesn’t address the root of the issue which is that the vast majority of homosexuals truly believe they were born that way, therefore it makes it not a sin. Many even get angry when it’s suggested that something happened in their life beyond their control, such as sexual abuse.

                    While we could argue that everyone is born with a sinful nature, they would argue that their homosexuality is about as sinful as being born with a disability.

                    On the floor Answered on November 4, 2019.

                    Basically, at the root of the argument is that lust justifies sin— that if you desire something, or even desired it from birth, that it must be okay to act on the lust.

                    Homosexuals may object that their relationships are not purely about sex.   ‘Lust’ is used in scripture of illegitimate desire.   ‘Lust’ is used to refer to covetousness in scripture, not exclusive to sexual behavior.  One can lust after one’s neighbor’s wife.  That could be sexual, but it’s possible a man could think, “My neighbors wife cooks such good biscuits.  I wish she were my wife” and covet her without thinking of sex.  One could also covet one’s neighbors servant, house, or donkey without having sexual desire.

                    on November 4, 2019.

                    I am confused Lucky.  Does this ‘ the vast majority of homosexuals truly believe they were born that way, therefore it makes it not a sin. Many even get angry when it’s suggested that something happened in their life beyond their control, such as sexual abuse.’ relate to Gays who claim to be Christians or gays in general?

                    For the record I don’t believe anyone does the Kingdom any favours by hearing someone who is gay say they were born that way and then argue that they are wrong.  And I would suggest that being gay is not a sin, having sex outside of a hetero marriage is sin.

                    on November 4, 2019.

                    Gays in general.

                    on November 6, 2019.
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                      Can anyone show me where, in the red letters, our Lord Jesus Christ commands us, or even permits us, to judge and hate our neighbors for being attracted to adults of the same gender?

                       

                      Queen bed Answered on November 22, 2019.

                      I would hope that no one here hates anyone, as that is not what Jesus calls us to do.

                      The issue is how the church should handle gay people in our midst. Are we to accept their lifestyle with open arms? Perform gay marriages within our churches?

                      What is your definition of judging? If you had a Christian friend who was committing adultery, would you not say anything?

                      on November 22, 2019.

                      @Nate, That’s an odd request, why do you ask?

                      on November 22, 2019.
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