Can someone please explain the ‘Comments’ section on this forum?

    I have been a bit confused about how the upvoting and comments sections work. I don’t really understand how the numbers are supposed to work, or what they mean.

    Case in point: The QOTD 06/30/20.

     

    Brynna’s question has an upvote score of 1.

    Her ‘Comments’ value is 4.

    When you expand the ‘Comments’ (ie. click on it) there’s 3 written comments.

     

    NWNL has an upvote score of 5.

    His ‘Comments’ value is 5.

    When you expand the ‘Comments’ (ie. click on it) it shows no written comments.

     

    Ok, so this seems like the ‘Comments’ value is maybe the total of upvotes plus written comments…yes?

    Except it doesn’t appear to hold for others…

     

    luvabug99 has an upvote score of 2.

    His ‘Comments’ value is 3.

    When you expand the ‘Comments’ (ie. click on it) it shows no written comments.

     

    Scott+Zelda has an upvote score of 0.

    His ‘Comments’ value is 4.

    When you expand the ‘Comments’, it shows no written comments.

     

    Can anyone explain what all this means? I’m so confused 😂.

    King bed Asked on June 30, 2020 in ADMINISTRATIVE.
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      Ok, this is going to be weird, confusing, and illogical…so hold on for a wild ride!

      If the system is working as programmed, the “comment” count shown in the mobile version of the site is the sum of the upvotes, downvotes, and comments on a question/answer. Because downvoting is rare, the “comment” count is usually the sum of comments and upvotes–as is the case for Brynna’s question and NWNL’s answer.

      However, the site has a malfunction/bug in this area where upvotes aren’t always registered but still add to the comment count. This was noticed by users quite some time ago…I’m thinking 6 months ago (it didn’t happen before that). The bug doesn’t seem to affect downvotes or true comments. But bizarrely, those unregistered upvotes still somehow count as comments (at least some of the time).

      So for @luvabug99, that means he has two “registered” upvotes and one “unregistered” upvote. For me, it could be 2 downvotes + 2 “registered” upvotes, 1 downvote + 1 “registered” upvote + 2 “unregistered” upvotes, or just 4 “unregistered” upvotes. Can’t say for sure!

      Oh, and if you use the non-mobile version of the site, the comment count is just the true comment count and doesn’t include the upvotes/downvotes…go figure.

      Hope that helps. Love the group here, but the technical part of the site isn’t so great.

      -Scott

      Under the stars Answered on June 30, 2020.
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        There are some glitches in the voting and comment system, but overall, it accomplishes what it’s designed for, which is to help self-regulate and police the site.  It’s not perfect by a long stretch, but from a moderator standpoint it is so much easier than the old system.  If someone posts something inappropriate or rude, for example, it can be quickly downvoted by others, which moves it to the bottom of the thread rather than the top where others see it and continue to get upset before a moderator can come in and remove it.  With the way it is now, a post can be buried effectively by other members and then removed later when a moderator is able to get to it, thus lessening the damage.  🙂

        Dale – TMB Board Czar

        Fell out of ... Answered on July 1, 2020.
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          I don’t understand it either. Plus, in order to reply to answers to my question, I will have to post like a dozen other unrelated posts first.

          Double bed Answered on June 30, 2020.
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            @Scott – thanks for that information. Very interesting.

            So….

            I was viewing on a phone. After reading your information, I viewed on a Chromebook.

            On the Chromebook:

            luvabug99 has an upvote score of 2, and ‘Comments’ value of 0.

            Scott+Zelda has an upvote score of 0, and ‘Comments’ value of 0.

            I think I’m even more confused than before 😂.

            So, viewing on a Chromebook is different from on a phone. But is a desktop different again? I don’t have access to a desktop right now, so I can’t check.

            King bed Answered on June 30, 2020.
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              The Chromebook gets the same version as a desktop I believe. Same goes for the iPad. The desktop version only includes “real comments” in the comment count. This version is also vastly superior in many ways (editing, recent answers on the right side bar, being able to format, etc).

              Only inferiority I’ve seen with the desktop version is getting images into questions/answers…never seems to work for me.

              -Scott

              Under the stars Answered on June 30, 2020.
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                Ok, thanks very much for that, Scott.
                I have never come across a forum with a rating/comment system like this before. Quite unique (and confusing!).

                King bed Answered on June 30, 2020.
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                  I’ve been noticing that I will see under “My Recent Activity” that a certain answer was voted up, then when I go to look at it (in case anyone also commented on it), the upvotes don’t show. But a day or two later, they do. The votes I place don’t always show up right away either.

                  In my opinion, the best way to handle it is to just try not to worry about the votes once I’ve made them. (And my self-esteem is never affected by how many upvotes I get or don’t get! lol!)

                  Under the stars Answered on July 5, 2020.
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                    This helped me understand everything much better. The mobile version of this site is much different from the full site on my computer.

                    Double bed Answered on July 6, 2020.
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