Drawn vs. photos for discussion
Building on the discussion about nudity in entertainment and the tangent about art, I recalled a magazine my cousin and I used to sneak peeks at when we discovered them at a relative’s house. It was called “Sex to Sexty”. As I recall it was just a bunch of black and white cartoons featuring jokes involving sexual situations. Half of them were well beyond my understanding, though of the ones I did understand, some were hilarious and others were (at least to that-aged-me) super gross.
Obviously it was entirely inappropriate reading for me as an elementary-aged child, and even if I had read them later, they would have been inappropriate for an unmarried person. But given the discussions we have had about things that help put a person in a sexual frame of mind for enjoying love play with one’s spouse vs. things that simply titillate and draw a person’s desire away from one’s spouse; I have to wonder if those old magazines (or something similar) might fall into the first category, especially if enjoyed together as a couple. After all, the only real difference between those cartoons and CFSP is the joke attached.
What are your thoughts? (It’s a purely academic discussion since I think this magazine was last published in the 60’s.)
Creating the atmosphere for a great many things in a marriage takes a great deal of planning and effort. It is fun and at times and difficult as well as time-consuming, etc. it is honestly something I am not great at. but in all of it, we must be spiritually minded asking the Lord to be in it. I agree that some titillating literature, or movies, or tv shows could definitely produce powerful chemistry for romance or lovemaking between the two of us. But the Lord would not be in that if it was not per His counsel, (Joshua 9:14). and if we did that, well, there would be consequences to pay, (Gal. 6:7). I also believe that generating excitement towards one another is a life long adventure that is in itself is titillating without outside catalysts.
Here are the filters taught in Passion Pursuit:
- Does God say no?** (If it’s not on list of prohibitions, the assumption it is permitted (1 Cor 6:12))
- Is it good for us? (Does the practice in any way harm the husband or the wife or hinder the sexual relationship? Does it cause emotional or physical pain for one of them? Could it cause someone to stumble in their walk with the Lord? If so, it is not for you. (1 Cor. 6:12))
- Is it only us? (Heb. 13:4 says, “marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure…” A quote from Passion Pursuit, “This means that it is never acceptable to involve someone else in sexual intimacy, including images, movies, fantasies, and even sexually explicit romance novels. The real or imagined presence of someone else will taint and compromise God’s design for intimacy. So you do not bring someone else into your one-flesh intimacy in your mind, in your heart, on a DVD, on a computer screen, or on a piece of paper.”)
**What God Says No To (according to Dr. Juli Slattery and Linda Dillow)
- FORNICATION – immoral sex (ex. 1 Cor. 7:2; 1 Thes. 4:3; 1 Cor. 5:1; 1 Cor. 6:15; Mt 5:32)
- ADULTERY – sex with someone who is not your spouse (Mt. 5:28)
- HOMOSEXUALITY – man to have sex with man, woman to have sex with woman (Lev. 18:22; 20:13; Rom 1:27; 1 Cor. 6:9)
- IMPURITY – can mean to lose one’s virginity [outside of marriage] or to become defiled, due to living out a secular and essentially pagan lifestyle (1 Cor. 6:9; 2 Cor. 7:1); moral uncleanness in general (Rev. 22:11)
- ORGIES – to become involved in sex orgies with different couples is an obvious violation of (1), (2), and (4)
- PROSTITUTION – paying for sex (Lev. 19:29; Deut. 23:17; Prov. 7:4-27)
- LUSTFUL PASSIONS – this does NOT refer to “the powerful, God-given sexual desire for each other enjoyed by a married man and woman. Instead it refers to an unrestrained, indiscriminate sexual desire for men or women other than the person’s marriage partner” (Mk 7:21-22; Eph. 4:19)
- SODOMY – In the OT this refers to men lying with men. The English word means male homosexual intercourse or intercourse with animals. The sodomites in the Bible were male homosexuals, or temple protitutes (both male and female). This does NOT include anal sex between a husband and wife, nor oral sex, as some Christian teacher have erroneously equated to mean.
- OBSCENITY AND COARSE JOKES – their take is this means inappropriate sexual comments in a public setting, not the sexual humor in the privacy of marriage. (Eph. 4:29; 5:4)
- INCEST – sex with family members or relatives (Lev. 18:7-18; 20:11-21).
It is the use of the images that matter, not the form. The way CFSP images are rendered may help some people control their use, but they are not rendered inert by the simplicity of form.
Never forget – moral problems are formed and fought in the heart, mind,and soul, not elsewhere!