Insights on Desire

Hi Beloved,

This morning I was praying for a sexual breakthrough and awkening for my marriage and others here who asked for prayer on this thread HERE.

I remember praying to the Lord, “Lord, may my wife desire me like Solomon and Tirzah desired each other.”  For me, I have the desire to BE desired by my wife.

This is when the Lord spoke to me, “Do you desire me like they did each other?”

Of course, the Lord is not referring in a sexual way…Do I have a deep desire and longing to be with Him and to know Him?

I was then reminded how (in the Prayer Thread listed above) JPops made this profound comment since praying for his wife and a sexual breakthrough in his own marriage:

“I wanted the miracle more than the Maker of miracles.”

The other insight the Lord showed me is just as I desired to be desire…how many times have the Lord desired me and I ignored Him?

Wow…

I repented and yielded my marriage and marriage bed to Him.  I don’t know if my wife will ever desire me yet now I know that I need to desire Him above all else.

What are your thoughts on this?  Has the Lord spoke to you in a similar fashion?  If so, how?

P.S. The Lord just reminded me of John 6 where the people wanted the bread yet rejected the Bread of Life. 

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    The question posted is thought provoking. Thanks to those who have posted comments and answers. I have learned a lot. I will add that I have been lead by the Lord in many areas of my life and prayers answered. My Beloved and I need to be praying more for the Spiritual aspect in our MB.

    Queen bed Answered on September 25, 2019.
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      Yes,  I have been spoken to by the Lord in similar ways. It helps clarify what/who is really important.

      I have had to say many times, even if “such and such” (career-wise, financially, marriage, etc.) never becomes a reality, I will be faithful to you and give you my praise.  Kind of like Job said, “Blessed be the name of the Lord.”

      Under the stars Answered on September 25, 2019.
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        God is good, isn’t He?  He is a very real and personal God.

        When you asked about being spoken to “in a similar fashion,” I am not sure if you’re speaking of the message or the method.

        I know that I have gotten similar convictions over my years, but I don’t recall the details around them.  But one passage that God has used to speak to me comes to mind, and I think it fits with what you are learning.  It’s in Hosea 2, and I am reminded that we are the bride of Christ, and our “lovers” can be anything or anyone that is not Him, including our own spouse whom we may idolize.

        In reply to his bride wanting to go back after her “lovers” because of what they could provide, he says in verses 6-7:

        “I will hedge up her (his bride) way with thorns,
        And I will build a wall against her so that she cannot find her paths.
        “She will pursue her lovers, but she will not overtake them;
        And she will seek them, but will not find them.
        Then she will say, ‘I will go back to my first husband,
        For it was better for me then than now!”

        Is the pursuit of desire, love, sex, etc from our spouse having us run away from our Bridegroom?    We can try to pursue it, but we can never quite “overtake” or catch them.  We are seeking for that desire and love but can’t quite find them.  Could these hedges of thorns and walls we keep running into be a divine act of love from your/my Bridegroom wooing us back to Him?  Are our hearts too hardened to see it?  Instead of hearing and seeing the love and call of our Bridegroom back to Himself, are we becoming resentful and embittered that He isn’t just letting us go to, or even worse, handing us our “lovers”?  Would we say that this husband is unkind and cruel to build walls and to block his wife’s path back to her lovers, or can we see it for the act of true love that it is?

        Then He says in verses 14-16:

        “Therefore, behold, I will allure her,
        Bring her into the wilderness
        And speak kindly to her.
        15 “Then I will give her her vineyards from there,
        And the valley of Achor as a door of hope.
        And she will sing there as in the days of her youth,
        As in the day when she came up from the land of Egypt.
        16 “It will come about in that day,” declares the Lord,
        “That you will call Me Ishi  (my husband)
        And will no longer call Me Baali (my master).”

        I think the fact He leads her/us to the wilderness is very telling.  Think of what the wilderness represents in Scripture. The wilderness is a place of testing, it’s not paradise.  Yet, it’s in our place of testing, maybe the place of desolation and where our survival becomes dependent on Him as provider, that He will allure us to, and where He will speak kindly to us.   And my personal favorite part, in this wilderness, that is where our relationship and hearts shifts and we now call Him “my Husband” and not “my Master”.   In essence He desires our hearts, not our bodies.  Just as we long for our spouse to want our hearts, and not just our bodies whether it’s for a paycheck or sex.

        Under the stars Answered on September 25, 2019.
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          I have never heard “Tirzah” spoken in the context of Solomon.  That seems to me to be a connection made in literature.  I recognize Tirzah as one of the five daughters who Moses advocated for in Numbers 27 and from the book Ben-hur,  I don’t recall her being called Tirzah in the Song of Songs.

          To say that God spoke to you about the desire that you have and referenced the relationship of Solomon and the Shulamite to do so would be to agree with the allegorical interpretation of the Scriptures.  I would not think  the voice of the Lord.  Now if the voice said that you shall love the Lord your God with all of your heart, soul and mind, (Deut. 6) well, that as the greatest command would be His voice.  Or any other direct type command, i.e. Rom. 12:1-2.

          Blanket on a secluded beach! Answered on September 25, 2019.

          The Holy Spirit is an amazing Him, and part of the God-head. He teaches, He convicts, He guides, He testifies, and He even speaks. It always mystifies me when believers, in essence, call other believers’ experiences false, just because they haven’t experienced it. My heart always aches for them because it seems they are missing out on a level of intimacy that is available in our relationship with the Lord God, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

          on September 25, 2019.

          You have a good point.  But in the defense of the Word of God, no addition to that word is tolerable.  That type of thinking is how the word of faith movement has grown so big.  When we add to Scripture we what is not there, are we not wrong in doing so?

          on September 25, 2019.
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            Your insight on desire and its impact on you, Elevation, is a wonderful reminder of God’s created purpose for the sacred marriage bed. Mrs. Youngbear/Oldbear and I have enjoyed an intimate, vibrant prayer and praise relationship over the years. Often we collapse in absolute rapture after making love and spend time cuddling, talking, and taking time to count our blessings in thanks to our Lord and Savior. She melts in my arms when I pray during these times.

            The Lord created us to crave and be fulfilled in relationship to Him, our spouse, our children, our family, our friends, our neighbors,  our church community, our community, and (to use the KJV) the utmost parts of the world. The two great commandments capture it all.

            However, it all starts, as you beautifully pointed out, with a desire for intimacy – first with our Lord. Then everything comes into focus!

            Thanks, Elevation!

            Blanket on a secluded beach! Answered on September 25, 2019.
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              @Slip The name “Tirzah” is actually a name that was quoted from the book “Intimacy Ignited” by Joseph and Linda Dillows since we as the readers don’t have a definite name for Solomon’s wife.  I couldn’t find the actual excerpt on how they came up with the name…I personally liked the name and use it now when referring to her. 🙂

              Although there is speculation that Tirzah could have been the same woman who took care of David in his last days and Solomon fell in love with her…she was referred to as a Shunammite named Abisag.

              Reference: 1 Kings 1:3

              Blanket on a secluded beach! Answered on September 25, 2019.

              That is good stuff, thanks.

              on September 25, 2019.
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                SOS 6:4, “You are as beautiful as Tirzah, my darling,…” (NASB)

                Under the stars Answered on September 25, 2019.

                Right, but that is not her name.

                on September 25, 2019.

                I realize that, but I am guessing this is the reference Elevation couldn’t find, and is probably why the Dillows chose that name.

                on September 25, 2019.
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                  Elevation, I have had very similar thoughts, that I believe were whispered to me from the Holy Spirit as He teaches me, about desire.  I also noticed that my longing to be desired by my husband, not just physically but emotionally as well, is intense and abiding and it occurs to me that God must have that same longing for us to desire him, to want to be with him and to (eventually) be one with him.

                  Under the stars Answered on September 25, 2019.
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