The magic inch
We read all the time how most women can’t orgasm from intercourse alone. There is some debate about the percentage who can, and that number tends to increase as women get older, but there is a real issue here.
And it comes down to the woman’s intimate biology.
If a woman’s clitoris is no more than an inch from her vagina, intercourse alone will result in orgasm. If it’s just over an inch her chances of orgasm without additional stimulation of the clitoris are iffy. And over 1 and an eighth of an inch means she can’t orgasm from intercourse alone.
There is speculation that environmental factors (including environmental toxins) have recently increased the average distance between the vagina and the clitoris. This would mean more women were able to climax from intercourse alone in the past. While that’s interesting, it doesn’t help anyone.
If you’re not built for orgasm from intercourse alone (get out those tape measures – see the second link) don’t beat yourself up for not being able to do it. Find other ways to make sex great for both of you. Have your orgasm before or after intercourse (or both!) or add some manual or vibrator stimulation to the clit during lovemaking.
I finally got home so that I could measure. Were we supposed to measure the area while relaxed, or stretched 😉 LOL I assumed relaxed, because that’s more likely the state during sex …. the theory/studies fit with me, as long as measuring less than that “magic inch” (1/2″-5/8″) doesn’t alter things.
Even though Oing via PIV has always been possible for me, I am still pro-vibe, because it makes things so much easier and so much more sure.
I just skimmed the article (link 1)…. I have been able to O from PIV, with no other aid. But the more I paid attention, I realized that clitoral stimulation was happening simultaneously. This is one reason missionary positions are my favorite. It is all-around much more pleasurable for me. Positions that take his body away from mine (specifically the clitoral glans) they are not near as pleasurable, if not pleasurable at all. For me, ultimate pleasure consists of both the clitoris and inside the vagina (my focal pleasure spots vary from each encounter) being stimulated simultaneously. Os from clitoral stimulation alone isn’t near as satisfying.
I do wonder, does anyone know that when you can feel an O originating deep within (vaginal or uterine), versus from the clitoris, even though the clitoris is stimulated, and yes there is a difference…. what kind of orgasm is that classified as? Is it considered a clitoral O if the clitoris is stimulated at all? Or, is it about where the O actually originates?
Although we’ve never measured the distance between Mrs. Youngbear/Oldbear’s clitoris and her urethra, experience (lots of it) suggests it’s at or near the “magic inch.” In our younger years, we often sought and achieved simultaneous Os via missionary PIV, quite easily. Her O came through my pelvic thrusting/movement against her clitoris.
As we’ve aged, our (hers, particularly) preferred technique is FIV (mine) as she deftly and skillfully stimulates her clitoris. Could we still do simultaneous O PIV at age 70? Probably. It would take more time and energy; both of which we prefer to set aside to comfortably enjoy our intimacy.
Won’t go into our (limited) experience in this area but I do read a lot (and say that a lot too). The additional stimulation you’re describing seems to be the reason that WOT+grinding is a common (if not most common) way women first achieve O during PIV. You’ve mentioned your feelings about WOT before, but it appears quite popular for this. Also, I’ve seen plenty of women write that O’ing with their husbands inside of them is far superior to doing it without, and I wonder if that’s why it’s so common for soloing women (both married and unmarried) to use a dildo simultaneously with clitoral stimulation.
As to the “type” of orgasm, I recommend looking at the 9-page diagram+description on Married Christian Sex linked here:
I believe what you’re describing might be a “blended” orgasm, although maybe it’s still just clitoral? I have tons of questions in this arena, as it’s just now something we’re working into, but trying to move things slowly and make sure to enjoy the successes and encounters we have without getting too technical.
“So, might we conclude that the distance is a function of two factors?
1. The location of the clitoral head in relation to the urinary meatus.
2. the size/length of the clitoris.”
As GeorgeB said, this study did focus on #1, but I’ve wondered for a long time about #2. Are people aware of any studies/data on this? I’ve wondered for a while if women with larger clitorises ended up being more sexual and could O more easily. While I know that’s a bit like asking if men with larger penises are more sexual, I think it’s a bit different because men can easily find good ways to get stimulation, pretty much regardless of size, and that might not be true for women. Overall, just wondering if the ease of getting sexual pleasure was more for said women, and thus they might end up being more sexual over time?
This article points to research indicating both size and distance matter. They used MRI on a few dozen women, which is still a small sample size (pun intended):
*Edited for improved link.
My study of this topic leads me to say that location, size, and level of sensitivity of the clitoris are the three main factors in whether a female reaches orgasm during PIV. Whether she has experienced an O apart from PIV is also understood to be a contributing factor, but that has nothing to do with characteristics of her clit.