What’s the mystery?

    Ephesians 5:31-32 says, “31 For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. 32 This mystery is great; but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the church.”

     

    What do you believe is the mystery in reference to Christ and the church? How does “the two become one flesh” transfer to Christ and the church?  Is the mystery beyond the “one flesh” reference?

    Under the stars Asked 6 days ago in Theology of Sex .
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      For me it is the mystery of how two flesh can become one. Initially human flesh was one. Then when God made Eve out of Adam it became more than one. From then on all humans were born from women. Yet, when two marry, they become one. How can what was once one but became more than one become one again? That is the mystery.

      Similarly, how can what was made by God but became separated from God become one with God again? Only in Christ. Yes, Christ in us and us in Him.

      What gets more intimate and connected than PIV? It is a literal joining together of two into one.

      What gets more (spiritually) intimate and connected than being united by God’s Spirit in Christ? It is the coming together into one of God’s Spirit and our spirit. Two into one. That too is a mystery!

      One way to picture this is to imagine inhaling the same air as someone else by breathing  in what they have exhaled. And that person inhaling your air. It is the mixing of the same air in each others lungs (perhaps gross for some of us, but it is only an illustration. Maybe another mystery! 😉 )  The breath of God that was breathed in us at creation is now our breath/spirit and is mixed into one when God re-breathes (re-births) His breath/Spirit into us at conversion when we become one with Him in Christ!

      Under the stars Answered 5 days ago.
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        I think it circles back to Genesis. Man and woman are reunited in marriage after becoming separate when God created Eve from Adam. The mystery is Christ and the church now revealed. God designed marriage in the beginning to reflect that picture of the gospel. It was His plan all along. We were separated by sin but Jesus made us whole again.

        On the floor Answered 5 days ago.
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          Was researching this one last week.  That is Christ and the church and being one that is.  No conclusions have guesses and with me so green feel the mystery way beyond the one flesh  or the one flesh not really understood by many of us?  So thanks for posting!  For many the way of a man and maid itself remains a mystery.  T

          Double bed Answered 6 days ago.
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            @Tracker, I would love to hear your guesses.

            The problem with “mysteries” we are all somewhat in “guessing” mode.

            I just had the thought about the “one flesh” being about how Christ is IN us, and we are IN Him…. I am not sure if that’s way off or somewhat close.

            Under the stars Answered 6 days ago.
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              I believe the mystery is that God has taken Jew and Gentile and made them one in the church. Eph 3:2-6
              Th church unites two into one and marriage is a reflection of that same concept.

              Hammock Answered 6 days ago.
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                Is the mystery that Jesus and His Bride the church will also be joined, perhaps at the rapture?  Will we who are His be taken by Him?  Just in our human experience, we are one with our husband and wife in one way, yet still separate in others, perhaps the same will be true with Jesus and the church.

                I remember some scripture (I think) where Jesus seats those who are His on one side, and those who are not His on the other, but I can’t remember/find where this is.  Perhaps someone knows here?

                On the floor Answered 5 days ago.

                You may be thinking of this:  Jesus separates the sheep (the saved)  and the goats (the unsaved) in Matthew 2532

                https://www.biblestudy.org/question/jesus-separating-sheep-goats.html

                5 days ago.

                Yes, thank you JLoydH, I believe that is it.

                5 days ago.
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                  Don’t you just love a mystery! 😊

                  It’s a mystery how Mrs. Oldbear and I continue to be woven together as one, year after year.

                  It’s a mystery how the Holy Spirit comforts me and His presence means more to me, day by day.

                   

                  Under the stars Answered 5 days ago.
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                    there are two ways to look at a mystery; those we can solve and those we cannot solve. Has anyone figured out the trinity concept? No you haven’t neither have I. It is a mystery that remains unsolvable by our feeble, sinful minds. if the marriage mystery goes the same way, we have an unsolvable mystery again. Many truths, but unsolvable.

                    I’m thinking it has to do with the marriage of the Lamb as someone above suggested.

                    Hammock Answered 5 days ago.
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                      Here’s how one commentary identifies the mystery referenced in Eph 5:31-32. (partial)

                      (Christ) himself is a great and unfathomable mystery:

                      Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory. (ESV, 1 Timothy 3:16)

                      To add to this mystery of Christ that somehow every believer is united into a single body in his flesh, is indeed a very great mystery that no man can either fully know or explain. That believers are literally in some mystical sense united to the person of Christ and thus died and risen in him to new life is central to Pauline theology (Col 2:6-15, Eph 3).

                      https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/5857/what-is-the-profound-mystery-paul-was-speaking-of-regarding-jesus-in-ephesians

                      It is amazing that we are united to the person of Christ and to every other believer the moment that we repent and receive Him in faith… for ETERNITY and that we will sit in judgement of Satan and his fallen angels (who have done all they can to discourage us, distract/tempt us from service to Christ,  swell our pride, and to doubt our faith in this life)  one day (1 Corinthian 6:3)

                      On the floor Answered 5 days ago.
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